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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://blog.nirsoft.net/2009/05/17/antivirus-companies-cause-a-big-headache-to-small-developers/comment-page-4/#comment-222177</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From about the late 1990&#039;s to the first half of the last decade, I quarantined code that came from unsolicited spam e-mail attachments.  One had actually enabled and used a dialer that was disabled by default in a win98 system. Norton antivirus, together with others at the time never reported such behaviour when I scanned these files for a report classification. A few years later in another continent I had these quarantined files backed up again to a new hard disk using a system that had Norton antivirus &#039;police&#039; the transfer and it correctly identified the same file as containg a dialer. After blogging this, within hours, a pop up penetrated a completely unrelated and legitimately protected machine in a large company with USER name and password fields containing explicatives. Thanks again for keeping computing free. Wonderful utilities!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From about the late 1990's to the first half of the last decade, I quarantined code that came from unsolicited spam e-mail attachments.  One had actually enabled and used a dialer that was disabled by default in a win98 system. Norton antivirus, together with others at the time never reported such behaviour when I scanned these files for a report classification. A few years later in another continent I had these quarantined files backed up again to a new hard disk using a system that had Norton antivirus 'police' the transfer and it correctly identified the same file as containg a dialer. After blogging this, within hours, a pop up penetrated a completely unrelated and legitimately protected machine in a large company with USER name and password fields containing explicatives. Thanks again for keeping computing free. Wonderful utilities!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blog.nirsoft.net/2009/05/17/antivirus-companies-cause-a-big-headache-to-small-developers/comment-page-4/#comment-220575</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we can act by the BETTER way, worked many times: developpers, in your site, just add a text like that:
&quot;if you want to use this program, you must uninstall [antivirus name]&quot; then send the url to the fucking antivirus company, to the commercial service, not tech. if any fucking commercial man of this shitty money drainers company see that, he will immediately ask his team to unbadword the program to stop potentially cash loss of users uninstalling antivirus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we can act by the BETTER way, worked many times: developpers, in your site, just add a text like that:<br />
"if you want to use this program, you must uninstall [antivirus name]" then send the url to the fucking antivirus company, to the commercial service, not tech. if any fucking commercial man of this shitty money drainers company see that, he will immediately ask his team to unbadword the program to stop potentially cash loss of users uninstalling antivirus</p>
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		<title>By: Chaks</title>
		<link>http://blog.nirsoft.net/2009/05/17/antivirus-companies-cause-a-big-headache-to-small-developers/comment-page-4/#comment-216024</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McAfee antivirus gave me this false positve few months back when i was reviewing few of your tools.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techsmartlife.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TechSmartLife&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McAfee antivirus gave me this false positve few months back when i was reviewing few of your tools.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techsmartlife.com" rel="nofollow">TechSmartLife</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Rover All Over</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rover All Over</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend could not get his mail in Outlook Express kept asking for his password after his computer was fixed by an (so called) expert in a computer shop. My friend entered his right password but it did not work.
I used Mail Passview v1.77 to find out his password and it reveled a different password a new one that the expert had changed it to. So you can not even trust people in Computer Shops.

I scanned the program with Avast and it was clean no false positive.
Malwarebytes reported that mailpv.exe file was infected with (PUP.MailPassView) so I put it in the ignore list.
I tried it on my Thunderbird and it found my password in about 2 seconds. 
Best program for looking up lost passwords in email clients. 

Will try some of your other programs and then in the near future will donate.
THX Nir</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend could not get his mail in Outlook Express kept asking for his password after his computer was fixed by an (so called) expert in a computer shop. My friend entered his right password but it did not work.<br />
I used Mail Passview v1.77 to find out his password and it reveled a different password a new one that the expert had changed it to. So you can not even trust people in Computer Shops.</p>
<p>I scanned the program with Avast and it was clean no false positive.<br />
Malwarebytes reported that mailpv.exe file was infected with (PUP.MailPassView) so I put it in the ignore list.<br />
I tried it on my Thunderbird and it found my password in about 2 seconds.<br />
Best program for looking up lost passwords in email clients. </p>
<p>Will try some of your other programs and then in the near future will donate.<br />
THX Nir</p>
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		<title>By: luke</title>
		<link>http://blog.nirsoft.net/2009/05/17/antivirus-companies-cause-a-big-headache-to-small-developers/comment-page-4/#comment-210152</link>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We often need produkey. I like winprefetchview too (e.g.). To get the nirlauncher trough network and protect it from antivirus we zipped the folder with passwordprotection, deactivating av before unzipping it on targetmachine...
avira, avast, mse, they all produce false positives. THX Nir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We often need produkey. I like winprefetchview too (e.g.). To get the nirlauncher trough network and protect it from antivirus we zipped the folder with passwordprotection, deactivating av before unzipping it on targetmachine...<br />
avira, avast, mse, they all produce false positives. THX Nir!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://blog.nirsoft.net/2009/05/17/antivirus-companies-cause-a-big-headache-to-small-developers/comment-page-4/#comment-205179</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 04:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t use a password manager you get to choose between the impossibility (for ordinary memories) of remembering the diversity/complexity of them required by meaningful security, or using the same well worn ones and compromising the reason for their existence. Therefore having a little program like this is a helpful option. After the download Webroot immediately placed it in quarantine, necessitating restoring it over security warnings. Having also recently added a secondary program for registry cleaning (with some functional overlaps with Webroot) I was glad to find that altho it too had flagged the new program - upon opening it -  it also provided a choice to &quot;add to exclusions&quot; with a single click. 
Thanks for your efforts in making this available Nirsoft!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don't use a password manager you get to choose between the impossibility (for ordinary memories) of remembering the diversity/complexity of them required by meaningful security, or using the same well worn ones and compromising the reason for their existence. Therefore having a little program like this is a helpful option. After the download Webroot immediately placed it in quarantine, necessitating restoring it over security warnings. Having also recently added a secondary program for registry cleaning (with some functional overlaps with Webroot) I was glad to find that altho it too had flagged the new program - upon opening it -  it also provided a choice to "add to exclusions" with a single click.<br />
Thanks for your efforts in making this available Nirsoft!</p>
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		<title>By: Snowed_In</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowed_In</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 04:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wireless Network Watcher, just gave my AVG and Malwarebytes conniptions!!
All my other Nirsoft apps have been OK.
Previously I&#039;ve had issues with Sysinternals, some GRC  utilities and some custom built apps by developers in our workplace with CA products and more recently with Symantec...
All with products we need to do our work!!

Many Thanks and keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wireless Network Watcher, just gave my AVG and Malwarebytes conniptions!!<br />
All my other Nirsoft apps have been OK.<br />
Previously I've had issues with Sysinternals, some GRC  utilities and some custom built apps by developers in our workplace with CA products and more recently with Symantec...<br />
All with products we need to do our work!!</p>
<p>Many Thanks and keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have had Microsoft Security Essentials on my PC for a while.  Did a FULL file scan for the first time (the default is a weekly quick scan) and it detected IE PASSVIEW as a potential threat:  HackTool:Win32/Passview  

MSE wants to remove or quarantine the file iepv.exe (which is still in your original zip file)

I shall trust you and the other opinions on this website and treat it as a false positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have had Microsoft Security Essentials on my PC for a while.  Did a FULL file scan for the first time (the default is a weekly quick scan) and it detected IE PASSVIEW as a potential threat:  HackTool:Win32/Passview  </p>
<p>MSE wants to remove or quarantine the file iepv.exe (which is still in your original zip file)</p>
<p>I shall trust you and the other opinions on this website and treat it as a false positive.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These false positive need to be addressed by the anti-virus companies. I needed this tool to get my licenses and to date I&#039;ve had no ill effects. Norton and SuperAnti both gave it the okay but Malware Bytes had me worrying when I first ran it. Guess I won&#039;t be licensing MalwareBytes if they are not going to follow up on their false positives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These false positive need to be addressed by the anti-virus companies. I needed this tool to get my licenses and to date I've had no ill effects. Norton and SuperAnti both gave it the okay but Malware Bytes had me worrying when I first ran it. Guess I won't be licensing MalwareBytes if they are not going to follow up on their false positives.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan R</title>
		<link>http://blog.nirsoft.net/2009/05/17/antivirus-companies-cause-a-big-headache-to-small-developers/comment-page-4/#comment-181813</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a very computer-oriented person. I&#039;ve had my laptop for about a month now, maybe less, and there&#039;s less than 10 GB left of my 1 TB hard drive. Within all that used space, I have thousands of programs, many of which I or my friends wrote. It is very annoying as a developer to write a program, and as soon as you save and exit, it gets deleted by my anti-virus. There goes 3 hours of hard labor. As a user, I&#039;ve had to download the same programs over and over and over and over and over... and over again. Ugh... what a pain in the butt. Most of my programs include game-specific macros, or calculators. Many of my programs are keygens (how I have a $60/yr antivirus registered for 50 years). I have yet to see a clean keygen skate through the hoops of my antivirus software. Thankfully, I use sandboxie frequently, otherwise I&#039;d have a virus that does make it past my antivirus that I downloaded expecting another keygen. Figures, right?

If we could in some way get the antivirus companies to create a global whitelist, and work together to determine if the &#039;false-positives&#039; are really false... hopefully we can minimize the hassle associated with false positives. I also know of a few programs that are intended to crypt other files into FUD (Fully UnDetectable) files, passing the worldwide antivirus test. These programs completely annihilate the antivirus software. It kinda makes me wonder why I even have an antivirus. Maybe when the antivirus companies give me more relief than hassle, I&#039;ll stop jacking their products.

Had to vent,
Ryan R.

P.S. Even though I am a pirate, and have lots of expensive programs free of charge, I do donate to the respective companies an amount that i believe to be fair for what the product offers. Microsoft word for example, a hundred dollar program. Sooooo not worth that. Media converting tools, like those offered by Prism, are not free of charge. I initially got them for free, but decided to donate $10 ($5 per program). So see, pirates aren&#039;t as bad as the MPAA and RIAA make them out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a very computer-oriented person. I've had my laptop for about a month now, maybe less, and there's less than 10 GB left of my 1 TB hard drive. Within all that used space, I have thousands of programs, many of which I or my friends wrote. It is very annoying as a developer to write a program, and as soon as you save and exit, it gets deleted by my anti-virus. There goes 3 hours of hard labor. As a user, I've had to download the same programs over and over and over and over and over... and over again. Ugh... what a pain in the butt. Most of my programs include game-specific macros, or calculators. Many of my programs are keygens (how I have a $60/yr antivirus registered for 50 years). I have yet to see a clean keygen skate through the hoops of my antivirus software. Thankfully, I use sandboxie frequently, otherwise I'd have a virus that does make it past my antivirus that I downloaded expecting another keygen. Figures, right?</p>
<p>If we could in some way get the antivirus companies to create a global whitelist, and work together to determine if the 'false-positives' are really false... hopefully we can minimize the hassle associated with false positives. I also know of a few programs that are intended to crypt other files into FUD (Fully UnDetectable) files, passing the worldwide antivirus test. These programs completely annihilate the antivirus software. It kinda makes me wonder why I even have an antivirus. Maybe when the antivirus companies give me more relief than hassle, I'll stop jacking their products.</p>
<p>Had to vent,<br />
Ryan R.</p>
<p>P.S. Even though I am a pirate, and have lots of expensive programs free of charge, I do donate to the respective companies an amount that i believe to be fair for what the product offers. Microsoft word for example, a hundred dollar program. Sooooo not worth that. Media converting tools, like those offered by Prism, are not free of charge. I initially got them for free, but decided to donate $10 ($5 per program). So see, pirates aren't as bad as the MPAA and RIAA make them out to be.</p>
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